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	<title>Comments on: NUI Framework &#8211; ObjectiveC Alternatives [iPhone, C++]</title>
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		<title>By: David Wallin</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Wallin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 02:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points - I should clarify that when I say open source I mean that the full source code is available whether you decide to pay for it or not (not that it adheres to one of the stricter Open Source licenses). Almost all the good frameworks have some kind of fee associated with them - libnui is a little steeper than lets say Juce, but if you make one semi-successful app with it, it should pay for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points &#8211; I should clarify that when I say open source I mean that the full source code is available whether you decide to pay for it or not (not that it adheres to one of the stricter Open Source licenses). Almost all the good frameworks have some kind of fee associated with them &#8211; libnui is a little steeper than lets say Juce, but if you make one semi-successful app with it, it should pay for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Marek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>libnui looks awesome, I&#039;ve downloaded it in the past for a butchers, it looks very extensive, but it&#039;s the pay bit that puts me off using it. oF is very bare-bones but the best part of it is the community that comes with it. I guess the thing that makes oF a little tough for iPhone is the lack of UI stuff, which I understand libnui is pretty comprehensive with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>libnui looks awesome, I&#39;ve downloaded it in the past for a butchers, it looks very extensive, but it&#39;s the pay bit that puts me off using it. oF is very bare-bones but the best part of it is the community that comes with it. I guess the thing that makes oF a little tough for iPhone is the lack of UI stuff, which I understand libnui is pretty comprehensive with that.</p>
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		<title>By: PatternMusic</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatternMusic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LibNui&#039;s paid licensing seems reasonable when compared with other commercial audio and graphics libraries licensed for the iPhone. But I think it&#039;s a mischaracterization to call it open source when it&#039;s used for commercial and free closed-source projects. (It&#039;s not even clear that Apple&#039;s license agreements don&#039;t violate GPL entirely since Apple is imposing additional terms on distribution. But there are some GPL licensed apps available on the App Store such as Frotz. Go figure.) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like Objective C so much better than C++, but the performance difference it ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LibNui&#39;s paid licensing seems reasonable when compared with other commercial audio and graphics libraries licensed for the iPhone. But I think it&#39;s a mischaracterization to call it open source when it&#39;s used for commercial and free closed-source projects. (It&#39;s not even clear that Apple&#39;s license agreements don&#39;t violate GPL entirely since Apple is imposing additional terms on distribution. But there are some GPL licensed apps available on the App Store such as Frotz. Go figure.) </p>
<p>I like Objective C so much better than C++, but the performance difference it ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Bullock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Bullock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to write apps for the iPhone, but code in Python, you could try PyObjC. It looks like someone got it working: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saurik.com/id/5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.saurik.com/id/5&lt;/a&gt;. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to write apps for the iPhone, but code in Python, you could try PyObjC. It looks like someone got it working: <a href="http://www.saurik.com/id/5" rel="nofollow">http://www.saurik.com/id/5</a>. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: zach lieberman</title>
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		<dc:creator>zach lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this library (libnui) and your apps looks great !&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;one difference with openframeworks is the license.  we&#039;re (as well as ogre3d 1.7+ and irrlicht) MIT license, ie, &quot;use it as you like&quot;, whereas libnui is GPL /  $$ for non open source projects.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not so hot on that kind of license, but other folks might jive with that.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;more info at:   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.libnui.net/pages/licensing.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.libnui.net/pages/licensing.php&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this library (libnui) and your apps looks great !</p>
<p>one difference with openframeworks is the license.  we&#39;re (as well as ogre3d 1.7+ and irrlicht) MIT license, ie, &#8220;use it as you like&#8221;, whereas libnui is GPL /  $$ for non open source projects.   </p>
<p>I&#39;m not so hot on that kind of license, but other folks might jive with that.   </p>
<p>more info at:   <a href="http://www.libnui.net/pages/licensing.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.libnui.net/pages/licensing.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Baer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Baer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just started learning Python as my first computer language. It&#039;s for a simple web project, because I wanted to start small — but I know what I really want to do is iPhone apps. The plan was to learn Objective C after I learn Python, but I&#039;ve been tempted to forget about Python and go straight to Objective C. But this makes me wonder, is there a way I could apply Python to iPhone development? (Other than iPhone optimized webapps, which I am thinking about too)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just started learning Python as my first computer language. It&#39;s for a simple web project, because I wanted to start small — but I know what I really want to do is iPhone apps. The plan was to learn Objective C after I learn Python, but I&#39;ve been tempted to forget about Python and go straight to Objective C. But this makes me wonder, is there a way I could apply Python to iPhone development? (Other than iPhone optimized webapps, which I am thinking about too)</p>
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